Changelog:
12/6/2022 - start of dragonflight
10/28/2022 - few changes now established meta
12/29/2020 - Jingles
12/8/2020 - added breeds
12/5/2020 - meta shift SL initial
10/5/2020 - added the cursed dune watcher
5/14/2020 - moved anomalus to t1
3/26/2020 - moved the qiraji to T1
2/17/2020 - moved snobold to T2
2/17/2020 - added void-scarred cat T3
2/1/2020 - added anomalus T2
1/19/2020 - added the following pets: gleamhoof T2, direbeak T2, rotten LH T2, snobold T3, coastal bounder T2, voidglower T2, toenibbler T3, muck slug T3... (also moved rageling and ragnaros together)
1/19/2020 - added/changed the following requirements: added P/S to boarfly, no more S/S for autumnal, bleeds for wolvar pup, no more P/P starlette, added hit buff to cyclones, H/P sandling
1/19/2020 - removed the following pets: felbat, twilight whelpling, nightshade, pygmy marsuul, purple puffer, bronze whelpling, poda, squirky, cobalt raven, axebeak, belcher
1/19/2020 - moved the following pets to T3: boarfly, rabbits, sneaky marmot, direhorns, warbot, blighthawk
9/3/2019 - moved magma rageling to t3
7/8/2019 - moved blighthawk; kunchong hatchling to t2- added P/P cyclone fliers; cyclone dragons; kelpfin; gruesome belcher to t3- added twilight whelpling; armored vaultbot to t2
6/26/2019 - added Kunchong hatchling to tier 3
5/21/2019 - moved hermit crab to tier 1
5/19/2019 - removed detective ray, added squirky
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Trumeg
wrote on 8/26/2024
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Gráinne
wrote on 8/26/2024
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gjmelena
wrote on 3/5/2023
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LilGandalf
wrote on 12/14/2023
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Krennid#1294
wrote on 7/29/2023
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Jules
wrote on 5/12/2022
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cold wrote on 10/1/2021
I keep facing the exact same opponent and team all the time.
Fox/Twilight Clutch Sister/Bone Serpent.
He talks trash through his pet names and has been doing it for years; anyone else struggling with long wait times/exact same opponents always?
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Shenk
wrote on 10/4/2021
and to counter that team you could play a sandstorm team, maybe try a S/S sandyback crawler
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Gladly#11647
wrote on 11/5/2021
(edited)
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Mad wrote on 6/23/2021
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Mutanis
wrote on 6/23/2021
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Gráinne
wrote on 6/23/2021
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Mutanis
wrote on 2/26/2021
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Shenk
wrote on 3/8/2021
this playstyle nowadays would be too slow to be competetive against other meta teams and if you'd want to play with darkness then there are just better pets for that right now. also 325 speed aren't enough anymore
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Mutanis
wrote on 3/11/2021
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Shenk
wrote on 3/12/2021
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Mutanis
wrote on 3/12/2021
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Rosqo
wrote on 3/14/2021
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Shenk
wrote on 3/14/2021
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Rosqo
wrote on 3/15/2021
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Rosqo
wrote on 3/17/2021
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Mutanis
wrote on 3/17/2021
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Toothpick wrote on 3/10/2021
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Rosqo
wrote on 3/14/2021
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Mutanis
wrote on 12/8/2020
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Rosqo
wrote on 12/9/2020
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Mutanis
wrote on 12/9/2020
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Rosqo
wrote on 12/9/2020
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Berendain
wrote on 12/7/2020
1. Direbeak Hatchling is listed twice, appearing in tier 2 and 3.
2. Dusky Dreadwing Pup in Tier 3 is listed with the condition of Toxic Fumes weather, but with a moveset that's unaffected by Toxic Fumes
Queries:
1. S/S Alpine Foxling went from Tier 1 to completely absent, is this intented?
2. You recommend Spirit Claws on Cursed Birman. With 289 speed, is an 80% hit chance move, or 70% during darkness, better than Pounce?
3. You list the Spectral Raven with Nocturnal Strike instead of Call Darkness. If this is intended, perhaps it would be best to list a condition of using other pets with Call Darkness.
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Rosqo
wrote on 12/8/2020
1. Fixed
2. Dusky Dreadwing has Huge Fang.
Queries:
1. Alpine Foxling suffered from several changes; power creep for Dazzling Dance pets, Flurry being fixed and weathers being buffed. You can still use it and it will be ok but if you're choosing it for Dazzling Dance there are much better options.
2. The combo is Prowl into Darkness so to an extent the first slot doesn't matter significantly.
3. Fixed to Darkness.
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Berendain
wrote on 12/8/2020
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Rosqo
wrote on 12/8/2020
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Berendain
wrote on 12/8/2020
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Rosqo
wrote on 12/9/2020
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Spoofmasta wrote on 11/26/2020
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Rosqo
wrote on 11/28/2020
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Spoofmasta wrote on 12/1/2020
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Mutanis
wrote on 11/19/2020
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Rosqo
wrote on 11/21/2020
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nightflight
wrote on 10/17/2020
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Berendain
wrote on 9/10/2020
I've tried teams with strong damage against magic, but most of them rely on Scorched Earth, which comes back to bite me if I use a magic pet to try and counter the aquatic damage of the hermit crab. I can't use big hits to kill the Anomalus quickly because of the magic racial, and if I rely on multiple hit attacks like Flurry, I'm either not fast enough to attack first against Hermit Crab, or I don't have enough power in the stat budget to kill Anomalus quickly.
If I bring a flying pet to counter the Hermit Crab the Anomali will destroy it. I am yet to find a pet that sufficiently counters the two Anomali. Is there something I am missing? Or do I just need to wait until the Hermit Crab is nerfed? I haven't seen any signh that Anomalus is getting nerfed, so once the crab is hit I might just start facing 3 Anomali.
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Shenk
wrote on 9/10/2020
also right now the bronze whelpling is one of my favourite pets to counter anomalus right at the start of the match (edited)
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Gráinne
wrote on 9/10/2020
Edit: from Disco's site http://pvppetbattles.com/multi-attack-probability-tree/
Pets that allow Anomalus zero attacks:
SBH 0.06%
Pets that allow Anomalus only one attack:
Bronze Whelpling 100%
Crystal Spider 100%
Whomper 100%
SBH 61.28%
Flayer Youngling 26.64%
Pets that allow Anomalus only two attacks:
SBH 100%
Flayer Youngling 100%
Mongoose Pup 100%
Dandelion Frolicker 100%
(edited)
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Tirpack wrote on 6/28/2020
Is this just for variety? Or as "budget" alternatives for people who don't have the other pets yet, etc.?
Thanks in advance for the reply :)
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Gráinne
wrote on 6/28/2020
And the second team in Sandstorm uses a Qiraji.
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Tirpack wrote on 6/28/2020
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Gráinne
wrote on 6/28/2020
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Rosqo
wrote on 6/29/2020
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Tirpack wrote on 6/30/2020
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nomisuke
wrote on 4/30/2020
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Lordy#2592
wrote on 3/5/2020
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Shenk
wrote on 3/5/2020
you'll find that squirky used to be in this list. i do like it too but we removed it since the speed no longer is good enough anymore for it to be reliable and it kinda got replaced by kelpfin
however squirky is still in the list of the best humanoids
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Lordy#2592
wrote on 3/4/2020
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Shenk
wrote on 3/4/2020
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Berendain
wrote on 1/20/2020
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Shenk
wrote on 1/20/2020
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Berendain
wrote on 1/20/2020
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Shenk
wrote on 1/21/2020
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Kairy wrote on 9/25/2019
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Gráinne
wrote on 9/25/2019
So for example Fiendish Imp 1/1/2 is Burn/Immolation/Nether Gate.
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Shenk
wrote on 9/25/2019
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disma#1599
wrote on 7/19/2019
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Shenk
wrote on 7/19/2019
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Araka wrote on 7/10/2019
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Rosqo
wrote on 7/13/2019
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Aerch wrote on 5/2/2019
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Shenk
wrote on 5/4/2019
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Aranesh
wrote on 5/4/2019
Whenever one of the article editors makes a change, they have the option to add a version number (with a short description). If they do this, the previous version is saved as a snapshot and everyone can access this in a changelog. You can see how this looks for example in the devlog:
https://www.wow-petguide.com/index.php?m=DevLog
Below the Table of contents, click on the arrow below the "Last Update" line :-)
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Shenk
wrote on 5/5/2019
next time i change something i'll add a description
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Aerch wrote on 5/8/2019
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Necro
wrote on 4/9/2019
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Shenk
wrote on 4/14/2019
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Rosqo
wrote on 4/22/2019
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Noel wrote on 11/21/2018
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Remte
wrote on 11/22/2018
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Noel wrote on 11/22/2018
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Gráinne
wrote on 11/22/2018
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Shenk
wrote on 3/4/2019
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Berendain
wrote on 12/19/2018
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Rosqo
wrote on 12/21/2018
Other options Warbot with Mines, Zandalari with Flank, Frostwolf Ghostpup or P/P Autumnal Sproutling
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Berendain
wrote on 12/30/2018
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Gráinne
wrote on 12/30/2018
How does your opponent use his Murk? The DAH and BS have no big nukes they can deliver with RI. Does he start with Murk, which doesn't seem optimal in this case? Or is he using Shieldstorm? Does he have Darkness or NS on his Serpent?
A Fox will eat a Serpent, and Dibbler with Charge and Wind-Up is glorious against a DAH, but what ingredients is this guy using Murk for?
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Berendain
wrote on 12/31/2018
It's the battle that forces me to think the hardest, that's for sure. I had some success with a Foxling and my own S/S Rose Taipan, to beat him at his own Adder game, and to have flurry against Bone Serpent and do some damage on the same turn I remove Shieldstorm. Crouch in the last slot. Maybe a Valk as the third pet would be good addition to those two, but I'd still have two beasts if I face someone else with a Mech team. Maybe you have some better suggestions?
This week I have been using a different team entirely. I decided to get Twilight when it was on sale over Christmas, and have been winning the vast majority of games with Twilight, a Fledgling Warden Owl, and a Teeny Titan Orb with Surge of Light, Light, and Flash. I've only met the Murkalot player once in a battle this week, and I won. But this team also is weak against Mech-heavy teams.
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Gráinne
wrote on 1/6/2019
Yeah, someone who plays Murk with Shieldstorm is probably more dangerous than someone who goes for the simpler all-or-nothing RI cheese. Just like people who played Graves with Consume Corpse were more dangerous than those who took the easy-but-cheesy double AoE build.
The thing about Shieldstorm is that is is completely destroyed by a simple AoE like Primal Cry. So I'd think Direhorn, which resists Falling Murloc, and also has the priority move to blunt the DAH.
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etherpotion
wrote on 9/21/2018
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Rosqo
wrote on 9/23/2018
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Belatar
wrote on 9/25/2018
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etherpotion
wrote on 9/29/2018
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Bruski#1762
wrote on 10/24/2018
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Rylene
wrote on 10/12/2018
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Gráinne
wrote on 10/12/2018
1. Immolation, and then at some point, probably around half-health, retreating to the back line to heal up from the Humanoid racial as it does damage from the back line to your opponent's front pet.
2. Nether Gate, to switch out a pet you don't want to face with the Imp.
Apart from those two, you obviously want Burn, because otherwise you are left with no spammable attack.
In PvP, the TCS is most often used in a P/S breed to get that 289 speed in hope of being faster than your opponent, so that you can get an extra round's benefit from Phase Shift.
Obviously you take the OP Twilight Meteorite, and you try to arrange to use it on the round your Dragonkin racial procs. With a P/S breed, and in hopes of being faster, you will likely take Twilight Fire rather than Tail Sweep.
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Lithandriel#1864
wrote on 9/23/2018
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Rosqo
wrote on 9/23/2018
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PJE wrote on 9/15/2018
shes fucking tier 0. alongside murkalot.
nothing is even close to those 2.
imp is t2 at best.
SANDSTORM is back. get idol waaaaaaaaay up there. he fucking REKTS again
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Rosqo
wrote on 9/18/2018
After Haunt nerf imp is extremely strong again.
The tier 0 term emerged after all these pets were designated t1, this list changes that.
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PetBattleGod wrote on 9/12/2018
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Rosqo
wrote on 9/15/2018
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piekid
wrote on 9/13/2018
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piekid
wrote on 9/13/2018
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mixmaxter wrote on 8/6/2018
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Rosqo
wrote on 8/7/2018
I have several teams with wing rates over 98%, I have another at 95% and a third at 93%, all at 100 plus wind.
The evolved meta particularly sandstorm or sunlight are preventing those kinda ratios going forward. It pretty lame. Oh well next expansion calling it not
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Kiryo wrote on 9/12/2018
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Fysm wrote on 7/13/2018
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Rosqo
wrote on 7/17/2018
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Newbit wrote on 6/29/2018
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Solshine
wrote on 6/29/2018
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Somaloria#1890
wrote on 6/29/2018
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Barlenor
wrote on 6/28/2018
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Nucama
wrote on 12/30/2018
Fragment des Zorns 211
Beginnend mit Seelenrausch, danach Geistfeuerstrahl und diese beiden Fähigkeiten auf CD.
Fragment der Begierde 111
Meine ist ein H/S Breed und somit oftmals schneller als die Gegner. Also kann ich erst mal den Schild aufbauen, bevor ich den ersten Treffer kassiere, den ich dann auch wieder reflektiere.
Sonnengeborene Val'kyr 122
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